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		<title>By: VBA User</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2010/02/16/olap-catastrophic-failure/#comment-48617</link>
		<dc:creator>VBA User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If any body has written some VBA code to build the OLAP cube in Excel 2007.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any body has written some VBA code to build the OLAP cube in Excel 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: Giff</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2010/02/16/olap-catastrophic-failure/#comment-44576</link>
		<dc:creator>Giff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With Excel 2010 round the corner and PowerPivot attached to that does anyone have a reason they would continue to develop new offline cubes? I know that people with 2003 and 2007 (i think?) would have issues, but from a &#039;clean sheet&#039; perspective are there still any advantages to using .cub? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I only ask as I did a devlopment 2 years back for a reporting dashboard that was SQL Server 2000 -&gt; .cub -&gt; Excel 2003 and struggled to get anything to work. The cube would lock when refreshing causing users to get error messages, the learning curve was a pain as the documentation was minimal (Timothy Zapawa&#039;s &#039;Excel Advanced Report Development&#039; devotes about 20-30 basic pages to it, better than the Excel help file at least) and whilst I was impressed by the possibilities, the difficulties in setting up and supporting the blasted thing made me want to scream!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Excel 2010 round the corner and PowerPivot attached to that does anyone have a reason they would continue to develop new offline cubes? I know that people with 2003 and 2007 (i think?) would have issues, but from a &#8216;clean sheet&#8217; perspective are there still any advantages to using .cub? </p>
<p>I only ask as I did a devlopment 2 years back for a reporting dashboard that was SQL Server 2000 -&gt; .cub -&gt; Excel 2003 and struggled to get anything to work. The cube would lock when refreshing causing users to get error messages, the learning curve was a pain as the documentation was minimal (Timothy Zapawa&#8217;s &#8216;Excel Advanced Report Development&#8217; devotes about 20-30 basic pages to it, better than the Excel help file at least) and whilst I was impressed by the possibilities, the difficulties in setting up and supporting the blasted thing made me want to scream!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonah Feld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonah Feld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s right. MSQ in 2003 lets you build a cube, but in 2007 MSQ doesn&#039;t have the option (though in every other way it seems identical to the MSQ edition that comes with 2003). 2007 can still connect a Pivot Table to a cube made with SQL Server Analysis Services. There are also a bunch of new functions with 2007 that let you reference a cube by formula. I think it&#039;s pretty terrible Microsoft forces you to have other software to build a cube if you have Excel 2007. Makes learning the technology inaccessible to many. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or maybe it was done because an MSQ cube is prone to catastrophic failure?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right. MSQ in 2003 lets you build a cube, but in 2007 MSQ doesn&#8217;t have the option (though in every other way it seems identical to the MSQ edition that comes with 2003). 2007 can still connect a Pivot Table to a cube made with SQL Server Analysis Services. There are also a bunch of new functions with 2007 that let you reference a cube by formula. I think it&#8217;s pretty terrible Microsoft forces you to have other software to build a cube if you have Excel 2007. Makes learning the technology inaccessible to many. </p>
<p>Or maybe it was done because an MSQ cube is prone to catastrophic failure?</p>
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		<title>By: Roy MacLean</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2010/02/16/olap-catastrophic-failure/#comment-44008</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy MacLean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In Excel 2007, I can get to Microsoft Query via the Connection Properties dialog &gt; Edit Query (and canceling the wizard). However, there&#039;s no menu option &gt;File &gt;Create OLAP Cube, as was described in Bob&#039;s reference.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Excel 2007, I can get to Microsoft Query via the Connection Properties dialog &gt; Edit Query (and canceling the wizard). However, there&#8217;s no menu option &gt;File &gt;Create OLAP Cube, as was described in Bob&#8217;s reference.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy MacLean</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2010/02/16/olap-catastrophic-failure/#comment-44007</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy MacLean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bob,&lt;br&gt;
Okay, you mean an offline cube file.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sam,&lt;br&gt;
My Excel 2007 Help says:&lt;br&gt;
&quot;You can create an offline cube file (.cub) with a subset of the data from an OLAP server database. Use offline cube files to work with OLAP data when you are not connected to your network. A cube enables you to work with larger amounts of data in a PivotTable report or PivotChart report than you could otherwise, and speeds retrieval of the data. You can create cube files only if you use an OLAP provider (OLAP provider: A set of software that provides access to a particular type of OLAP database. This software can include a data source driver and other client software that is necessary to connect to a database.), such as Microsoft SQL Analysis Services Server version 2005, which supports this feature.&quot;&lt;br&gt;
So it looks more restricted than deprecated?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,<br />
Okay, you mean an offline cube file.</p>
<p>Sam,<br />
My Excel 2007 Help says:<br />
&#8220;You can create an offline cube file (.cub) with a subset of the data from an OLAP server database. Use offline cube files to work with OLAP data when you are not connected to your network. A cube enables you to work with larger amounts of data in a PivotTable report or PivotChart report than you could otherwise, and speeds retrieval of the data. You can create cube files only if you use an OLAP provider (OLAP provider: A set of software that provides access to a particular type of OLAP database. This software can include a data source driver and other client software that is necessary to connect to a database.), such as Microsoft SQL Analysis Services Server version 2005, which supports this feature.&#8221;<br />
So it looks more restricted than deprecated?</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2010/02/16/olap-catastrophic-failure/#comment-44006</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So for you it was X-hell?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So for you it was X-hell?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here is an example of creating one &lt;a href=&quot;http://wang.se/en/CreateOLAPCube.html/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wang.se/en/CreateOLAPCube.html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an example of creating one <a href="http://wang.se/en/CreateOLAPCube.html/" rel="nofollow">http://wang.se/en/CreateOLAPCube.html/</a></p>
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		<title>By: H.G. Lamy</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2010/02/16/olap-catastrophic-failure/#comment-44003</link>
		<dc:creator>H.G. Lamy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dick,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;although a first OLAP-encounter can be frustrating, admittedly, to dispel it might be a premature judgment. In fact, once having got used to working with data in / from cubes, one sourly misses it&#039;s ease when it&#039;s NOT available in another working environment. While it  may not entirely replace the work with conventional lists or databases, OLAP can indeed enhance a spreadsheet&#039;s capacity dramatically, at least from a controller&#039;s (or similar profession&#039;s) perspective.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The term OLAP describes more of a particular way to organize data than a particular product. There are also various technologies available from different vendors. Thus, what Microsoft calls &#039;OLAP&#039; within Excel so far does not necessarily says all about what is possible, and what external OLAP Add-Ins have to offer. Ease of use, as well as data-modeling capabilities (such as &quot;write-back&quot; and plenty of other non-native Excel features) from 3rd party suppliers can go far beyond those in Office 2003/2007.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually, one wonders why Microsoft hasn&#039;t harnessed and built in more of OLAP  technology until now. However,&#039;Power Pivot&#039;, announced in conjunction with Office 2010, may change that. Hopefully you don&#039;t give up too early, Dick. In case you dare a second attempt, you might want to try, for example, the free(within limits) &quot;Palo&quot; Excel Add-In (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jedox.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jedox.com&lt;/a&gt;). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kind regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;H.G. Lamy&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick,</p>
<p>although a first OLAP-encounter can be frustrating, admittedly, to dispel it might be a premature judgment. In fact, once having got used to working with data in / from cubes, one sourly misses it&#8217;s ease when it&#8217;s NOT available in another working environment. While it  may not entirely replace the work with conventional lists or databases, OLAP can indeed enhance a spreadsheet&#8217;s capacity dramatically, at least from a controller&#8217;s (or similar profession&#8217;s) perspective.</p>
<p>The term OLAP describes more of a particular way to organize data than a particular product. There are also various technologies available from different vendors. Thus, what Microsoft calls &#8216;OLAP&#8217; within Excel so far does not necessarily says all about what is possible, and what external OLAP Add-Ins have to offer. Ease of use, as well as data-modeling capabilities (such as &#8220;write-back&#8221; and plenty of other non-native Excel features) from 3rd party suppliers can go far beyond those in Office 2003/2007.</p>
<p>Actually, one wonders why Microsoft hasn&#8217;t harnessed and built in more of OLAP  technology until now. However,&#8217;Power Pivot&#8217;, announced in conjunction with Office 2010, may change that. Hopefully you don&#8217;t give up too early, Dick. In case you dare a second attempt, you might want to try, for example, the free(within limits) &#8220;Palo&#8221; Excel Add-In (see <a href="http://www.jedox.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jedox.com</a>). </p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>H.G. Lamy</p>
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		<title>By: Roy MacLean</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2010/02/16/olap-catastrophic-failure/#comment-44002</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy MacLean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dick,&lt;br&gt;
When you&#039;ve recovered, could you explain a bit what you mean by &#039;building an OLAP cube&#039;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sam,&lt;br&gt;
Why has this been deprecated in 2007?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brilliant error message, you have to admit :-(&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;/Roy&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick,<br />
When you&#8217;ve recovered, could you explain a bit what you mean by &#8216;building an OLAP cube&#8217;?</p>
<p>Sam,<br />
Why has this been deprecated in 2007?</p>
<p>Brilliant error message, you have to admit <img src='http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>/Roy</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Webb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What were the steps you were following? Did you have the latest version of the OLEDB for OLAP Provider installed (it&#039;s available from here &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=228DE03F-3B5A-428A-923F-58A033D316E1&amp;displaylang=en&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=228DE03F-3B5A-428A-923F-58A033D316E1&amp;displaylang=en&lt;/a&gt;)?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What were the steps you were following? Did you have the latest version of the OLEDB for OLAP Provider installed (it&#8217;s available from here <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=228DE03F-3B5A-428A-923F-58A033D316E1&amp;displaylang=en" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=228DE03F-3B5A-428A-923F-58A033D316E1&#038;displaylang=en</a>)?</p>
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