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		<title>By: WyrdestGeek</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2008/11/06/ribbon-youre-nothing-to-me-now/#comment-64837</link>
		<dc:creator>WyrdestGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well I guess I&#039;m *really* late to the party.  Here it is 2011 and I&#039;m getting into Office 2007 for the first time.  (My organization is slowly upgrading finally.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d like to say: I feel the pain of those that lament that what used to be an easy editing job is now ridiculously complicated.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Having said that, I actually think MS actually *did* think all this through before they did it.  Was it to force new (Microsoft) technologies on people?  Well, IMHO not exactly, at least not primarily.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It comes down to this:  The old button bar system might have been easy to edit, but it wasn&#039;t very actually useful for the Standard Generic Office User.&lt;br&gt;
*  Buttons would fall off when you didn&#039;t use them, but then you&#039;d need them again and you&#039;d have to know how to get them back.&lt;br&gt;
*  Almost every command available had a button no matter even if it was one that nobody ever used ever&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The ribbon sacrifices ease-of-customization for ease-of-use for the (novice) Standard Generic Office User.  The ribbon is a real pain for anyone wanting to customize it, but it will probably be a major benefit to any novice office user.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s why MS changed it, and that&#039;s why MS will be deaf to any cries of complaint from developers.  So it goes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.S.&lt;br&gt;
When I first looked at the thing, I didn&#039;t think it would be customizable *at all*.  At first glance, it looks as if it&#039;s just one big graphic driven by a mouseOver position map underneath.  After reading some, I realize that might not be entirely accurate, but I think the comparison still gives one a good sense of how customizable it isn&#039;t.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Furry cows moo and decompress.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I guess I&#8217;m *really* late to the party.  Here it is 2011 and I&#8217;m getting into Office 2007 for the first time.  (My organization is slowly upgrading finally.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to say: I feel the pain of those that lament that what used to be an easy editing job is now ridiculously complicated.</p>
<p>Having said that, I actually think MS actually *did* think all this through before they did it.  Was it to force new (Microsoft) technologies on people?  Well, IMHO not exactly, at least not primarily.</p>
<p>It comes down to this:  The old button bar system might have been easy to edit, but it wasn&#8217;t very actually useful for the Standard Generic Office User.<br />
*  Buttons would fall off when you didn&#8217;t use them, but then you&#8217;d need them again and you&#8217;d have to know how to get them back.<br />
*  Almost every command available had a button no matter even if it was one that nobody ever used ever</p>
<p>The ribbon sacrifices ease-of-customization for ease-of-use for the (novice) Standard Generic Office User.  The ribbon is a real pain for anyone wanting to customize it, but it will probably be a major benefit to any novice office user.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why MS changed it, and that&#8217;s why MS will be deaf to any cries of complaint from developers.  So it goes.</p>
<p>P.S.<br />
When I first looked at the thing, I didn&#8217;t think it would be customizable *at all*.  At first glance, it looks as if it&#8217;s just one big graphic driven by a mouseOver position map underneath.  After reading some, I realize that might not be entirely accurate, but I think the comparison still gives one a good sense of how customizable it isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p><br />
Furry cows moo and decompress.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron de Bruin</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2008/11/06/ribbon-youre-nothing-to-me-now/#comment-36299</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron de Bruin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi sharkboy&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I create three example workbooks but not have them online on this moment&lt;br&gt;
Must check a few things before I upload them.&lt;br&gt;
If you want them to play with it this weekend mail me private&lt;br&gt;
and i send them to you.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi sharkboy</p>
<p>I create three example workbooks but not have them online on this moment<br />
Must check a few things before I upload them.<br />
If you want them to play with it this weekend mail me private<br />
and i send them to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron de Bruin</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2008/11/06/ribbon-youre-nothing-to-me-now/#comment-36267</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron de Bruin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You need a combination of xml and VBA.&lt;br&gt;
I am working on a example for my wesite now and I will add it next week.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will post here when it is ready&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need a combination of xml and VBA.<br />
I am working on a example for my wesite now and I will add it next week.</p>
<p>I will post here when it is ready</p>
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		<title>By: sharkboy</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2008/11/06/ribbon-youre-nothing-to-me-now/#comment-36266</link>
		<dc:creator>sharkboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Ron,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is sooooooo useful!!!!  THANK YOU!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One other question, is there a way to have a drop-down menu on the ribbons?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What I&#039;d ideally like to be able to have a drop down menu that would list  all the wards/departments and be populated from the workbook, would you have to do this from within the workbook using vba, or would you have to define the list in the xml?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks again&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mark&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ron,</p>
<p>This is sooooooo useful!!!!  THANK YOU!!!</p>
<p>One other question, is there a way to have a drop-down menu on the ribbons?</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d ideally like to be able to have a drop down menu that would list  all the wards/departments and be populated from the workbook, would you have to do this from within the workbook using vba, or would you have to define the list in the xml?</p>
<p>Thanks again</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Ron de Bruin</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2008/11/06/ribbon-youre-nothing-to-me-now/#comment-36253</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron de Bruin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi sharkboy&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can start here&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rondebruin.nl/ribbon.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.rondebruin.nl/ribbon.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi sharkboy</p>
<p>You can start here<br />
<a href="http://www.rondebruin.nl/ribbon.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.rondebruin.nl/ribbon.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: sharkboy</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2008/11/06/ribbon-youre-nothing-to-me-now/#comment-36245</link>
		<dc:creator>sharkboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;HI(sorry for the caps, I didn&#039;t realise it was on!!)&lt;br&gt;
I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO BUILD A &#039;CLINICAL GOVERNANCE DASHBOARD&#039; AT WORK, THIS WOULD SHOW ABOUT 15 DIFFERENT INDICATORS OF THE STATE OF THE HOSPITAL THAT I WORK IN.  I CAN DO ALL THE CODE FOR IT, HOWEVER I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A RIBBON SO THAT ITS ACCESSIBLE WITHIN EXCEL, NO MATTER THE USER.  HAS ANYONE GOT A REALLY EASY example and walk through on how to do this?&lt;br&gt;
If I can get a ribbon to appear with a button on it, then I would be more than able to add more buttons etc and this would make the whole project more accessible and neater to users than having buttons on the sheet.&lt;br&gt;
I have done small amounts of C# but work mainly with VBA.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any help, or suggestions would be much appreciated!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Disillusioned NHS employee!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI(sorry for the caps, I didn&#8217;t realise it was on!!)<br />
I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO BUILD A &#8216;CLINICAL GOVERNANCE DASHBOARD&#8217; AT WORK, THIS WOULD SHOW ABOUT 15 DIFFERENT INDICATORS OF THE STATE OF THE HOSPITAL THAT I WORK IN.  I CAN DO ALL THE CODE FOR IT, HOWEVER I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A RIBBON SO THAT ITS ACCESSIBLE WITHIN EXCEL, NO MATTER THE USER.  HAS ANYONE GOT A REALLY EASY example and walk through on how to do this?<br />
If I can get a ribbon to appear with a button on it, then I would be more than able to add more buttons etc and this would make the whole project more accessible and neater to users than having buttons on the sheet.<br />
I have done small amounts of C# but work mainly with VBA.</p>
<p>Any help, or suggestions would be much appreciated!!!</p>
<p>Disillusioned NHS employee!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron de Bruin</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2008/11/06/ribbon-youre-nothing-to-me-now/#comment-36086</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron de Bruin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi EEK-A-CELL&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;See&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rondebruin.nl/qat.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.rondebruin.nl/qat.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&gt;&quot;It&#039;s possible to share a QAT with other users&lt;br&gt;
Yes you can copy the QAT file,see&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rondebruin.nl/imageqat.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.rondebruin.nl/imageqat.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is also a add-in to copy a QAT from only one workbook to another&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi EEK-A-CELL</p>
<p>See<br />
<a href="http://www.rondebruin.nl/qat.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.rondebruin.nl/qat.htm</a></p>
<p>&gt;&#8221;It&#8217;s possible to share a QAT with other users<br />
Yes you can copy the QAT file,see<br />
<a href="http://www.rondebruin.nl/imageqat.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.rondebruin.nl/imageqat.htm</a></p>
<p>There is also a add-in to copy a QAT from only one workbook to another</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2008/11/06/ribbon-youre-nothing-to-me-now/#comment-36080</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ribbon - You are nothing to me now as you no longer exist.&lt;br&gt;
With special thanks to Charlie Woodall&lt;br&gt;
Addin&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://cid-af0f671fc64e8122.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Ribbon/Classic&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cid-af0f671fc64e8122.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Ribbon/Classic&lt;/a&gt;&#124;_UI.xlam&lt;br&gt;
XML&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://cid-af0f671fc64e8122.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Ribbon/menus.TXT&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cid-af0f671fc64e8122.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Ribbon/menus.TXT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
QAT&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://cid-af0f671fc64e8122.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Ribbon/Excel.qat&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cid-af0f671fc64e8122.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Ribbon/Excel.qat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ribbon &#8211; You are nothing to me now as you no longer exist.<br />
With special thanks to Charlie Woodall<br />
Addin<br />
<a href="http://cid-af0f671fc64e8122.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Ribbon/Classic" rel="nofollow">http://cid-af0f671fc64e8122.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Ribbon/Classic</a>|_UI.xlam<br />
XML<br />
<a href="http://cid-af0f671fc64e8122.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Ribbon/menus.TXT" rel="nofollow">http://cid-af0f671fc64e8122.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Ribbon/menus.TXT</a><br />
QAT<br />
<a href="http://cid-af0f671fc64e8122.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Ribbon/Excel.qat" rel="nofollow">http://cid-af0f671fc64e8122.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Ribbon/Excel.qat</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2008/11/06/ribbon-youre-nothing-to-me-now/#comment-36020</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i think someone&#039;s hacked your RSS feed, unless of course you&#039;ve started advertising music, adobe, and viagra as a side project!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think someone&#8217;s hacked your RSS feed, unless of course you&#8217;ve started advertising music, adobe, and viagra as a side project!</p>
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		<title>By: Hersh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hersh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When I read this, I instantly thought to just look at the getenabled event, and derive your own custom event from it, with changes so it behaves the way you want.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OOP is beautiful, you just have to understand the pillars man. Prob solved.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read this, I instantly thought to just look at the getenabled event, and derive your own custom event from it, with changes so it behaves the way you want.</p>
<p>OOP is beautiful, you just have to understand the pillars man. Prob solved.</p>
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