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		<title>By: Comment on Office 2007 SP1 by Simon Murphy &#124; ooglewindowblinds.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comment on Office 2007 SP1 by Simon Murphy &#124; ooglewindowblinds.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 04:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] on Office 2007 SP1 by Simon Murphy Posted in January 26th, 2008  by photoshop01 in Photoshop News Comment on Office 2007 SP1 by Simon Murphy By Simon Murphy  Well I guess we&#039;ll find out tomorrow. (probably some Outlook polish or [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Tunc Uzun</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2007/12/09/office-2007-sp1/#comment-29397</link>
		<dc:creator>Tunc Uzun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with most of you guys (and the poll participants of course). &quot;Speed&quot; improvements are always welcome... ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My experience with Office 2007 doesn&#039;t go beyond the beta. But with v2003 and previous ones i did use it daily in my work and private life of course.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What i really miss in so called new versions to convince me to switch is the &#039;lack of gui enhancement&#039;. I&#039;d rate rexpect some &quot;revolutionary new&quot; GUI to get an aging donkey - like me - a new start.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I come from the engineering field so i have to deal with rather complex applications on a daily basis. And there, i have to deal with clumsy and rather annoying user interfaces than something innovative and productive to ease my life using them. So my &#039;incentive&#039; to learn something new would be some mayor improvement, that makes the use of software (-ANY- software of course) much, much easier. I think the last major leap in software usability was the change from DOS to GUI based applications (btw. wasn&#039;t this GEM 1.0...or am i wrong?). So i think i will stick with the old versions until i&#039;m convinced that the change is worth while.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope i didn&#039;t get too carried away and , ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most of you guys (and the poll participants of course). &#8220;Speed&#8221; improvements are always welcome&#8230; <img src='http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My experience with Office 2007 doesn&#8217;t go beyond the beta. But with v2003 and previous ones i did use it daily in my work and private life of course.</p>
<p>What i really miss in so called new versions to convince me to switch is the &#8216;lack of gui enhancement&#8217;. I&#8217;d rate rexpect some &#8220;revolutionary new&#8221; GUI to get an aging donkey &#8211; like me &#8211; a new start.</p>
<p>I come from the engineering field so i have to deal with rather complex applications on a daily basis. And there, i have to deal with clumsy and rather annoying user interfaces than something innovative and productive to ease my life using them. So my &#8216;incentive&#8217; to learn something new would be some mayor improvement, that makes the use of software (-ANY- software of course) much, much easier. I think the last major leap in software usability was the change from DOS to GUI based applications (btw. wasn&#8217;t this GEM 1.0&#8230;or am i wrong?). So i think i will stick with the old versions until i&#8217;m convinced that the change is worth while.</p>
<p>I hope i didn&#8217;t get too carried away and , <img src='http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2007/12/09/office-2007-sp1/#comment-29394</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hehe Doug. Yea, faster would be very much welcomed. I wonder...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe Doug. Yea, faster would be very much welcomed. I wonder&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A quick assessment of performance finds that:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A simple benchmark test recalculating 8000 trig functions 1000 times: 30% faster&lt;br&gt;
VBA subs using built in VBA functions with no spreadsheet recalculation: no change&lt;br&gt;
VBA subs with use of worksheetfunction calls: no change&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This means that using worksheetfunction in VBA is still about 5 times slower than it was in 2000/2003 versions; disappointing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These tests were with a Pentium Core2-duo running Vista.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick assessment of performance finds that:</p>
<p>A simple benchmark test recalculating 8000 trig functions 1000 times: 30% faster<br />
VBA subs using built in VBA functions with no spreadsheet recalculation: no change<br />
VBA subs with use of worksheetfunction calls: no change</p>
<p>This means that using worksheetfunction in VBA is still about 5 times slower than it was in 2000/2003 versions; disappointing.</p>
<p>These tests were with a Pentium Core2-duo running Vista.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;direct feedback from power users at large organizations&quot;&lt;br&gt;
If thats not some sort of UI improvements what will it be?&lt;br&gt;
Well I guess we&#039;ll find out tomorrow. (probably some Outlook polish or something)&lt;br&gt;
Sooo glad I have the choice to stick with 2003, I just havent seen a compelling reason to re-learn Excel to use 2007. Maybe I&#039;m missing something?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;direct feedback from power users at large organizations&#8221;<br />
If thats not some sort of UI improvements what will it be?<br />
Well I guess we&#8217;ll find out tomorrow. (probably some Outlook polish or something)<br />
Sooo glad I have the choice to stick with 2003, I just havent seen a compelling reason to re-learn Excel to use 2007. Maybe I&#8217;m missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: fzz</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2007/12/09/office-2007-sp1/#comment-29316</link>
		<dc:creator>fzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Paste special is one place where it could be argued Excel 2007 is a clear improvement. It adds a Shift+Ctrl+v shortcut for Paste Special. The value part you&#039;d need to type yourself. I&#039;ve been using this shortcut in OpenOffice for years. Nice for Microsoft to catch up finally, even if they are shamelessly stealing UI bits and pieces from their remaining competitors.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I could oversimplify: the good bits of the Excel 2007 UI (this, the new sort dialog [compare against Gnumeric&#039;s]) show Microsoft stealing the better UI functionality from its competitors; the bad bits, e.g., the ribbon, are completely home grown.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paste special is one place where it could be argued Excel 2007 is a clear improvement. It adds a Shift+Ctrl+v shortcut for Paste Special. The value part you&#8217;d need to type yourself. I&#8217;ve been using this shortcut in OpenOffice for years. Nice for Microsoft to catch up finally, even if they are shamelessly stealing UI bits and pieces from their remaining competitors.</p>
<p>I could oversimplify: the good bits of the Excel 2007 UI (this, the new sort dialog [compare against Gnumeric's]) show Microsoft stealing the better UI functionality from its competitors; the bad bits, e.g., the ribbon, are completely home grown.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob van Gelder</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2007/12/09/office-2007-sp1/#comment-29312</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob van Gelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I havent moved to Office 2007 yet. It&#039;s the Alt-E-S-V that makes me nervous about switching.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I havent moved to Office 2007 yet. It&#8217;s the Alt-E-S-V that makes me nervous about switching.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I totally agree with Jon.  I think &quot;poor dialog design&quot; hits it right on head.  I&#039;m thankful for the classic keys still working and am sure I&#039;ll eventually pick up on the new shortcuts.  However, the fact is that whether I do Alt-D-S or Alt-A-S, the data sort dialog still opens up with the OK button selected as opposed to the logical first sort criteria you get in &quot;classic Excel.&quot;  You have to tab forever to get to where you want or do a Shift-Tab, Tab.  It just makes no sense.  Even less logical is the fact that the Shift-Tab selects the entire sort column and the subsequent Tab highlights the first dropdown.  If Shift-Tab is the opposite of Tab, Shift-Tab, Tab should take you back to where you started.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sadly, we got word last week that Office07 would be rolled out within the next few weeks.  I will reluctantly switch over.  Despite the fact that I&#039;ve forced myself to use it at home for the past six months, I am not much better than on day one.  I considered the &quot;classic&quot; menu addins, the problem is that any way you get to a lousy dialog, you still get a lousy dialog.  I&#039;ll probably buy one anyway, though, because  my toolbar is very customized (it&#039;s just the letters A-Z) and I have too many shortcuts and macros attached that I am too used to using to let go of.  I doubt anyone outside of here would understand, but going from my custom Alt-N to an Alt-E-S-V to paste values would drive me endlessly nuts.  I do that hundreds of times a day.  I know 100 keystrokes vs 300 is nothing, but it feels like something.  In fact, that is probably my chief complaint.  &#039;07 probably is not much slower to use than before, but it feels like it is.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with Jon.  I think &#8220;poor dialog design&#8221; hits it right on head.  I&#8217;m thankful for the classic keys still working and am sure I&#8217;ll eventually pick up on the new shortcuts.  However, the fact is that whether I do Alt-D-S or Alt-A-S, the data sort dialog still opens up with the OK button selected as opposed to the logical first sort criteria you get in &#8220;classic Excel.&#8221;  You have to tab forever to get to where you want or do a Shift-Tab, Tab.  It just makes no sense.  Even less logical is the fact that the Shift-Tab selects the entire sort column and the subsequent Tab highlights the first dropdown.  If Shift-Tab is the opposite of Tab, Shift-Tab, Tab should take you back to where you started.</p>
<p>Sadly, we got word last week that Office07 would be rolled out within the next few weeks.  I will reluctantly switch over.  Despite the fact that I&#8217;ve forced myself to use it at home for the past six months, I am not much better than on day one.  I considered the &#8220;classic&#8221; menu addins, the problem is that any way you get to a lousy dialog, you still get a lousy dialog.  I&#8217;ll probably buy one anyway, though, because  my toolbar is very customized (it&#8217;s just the letters A-Z) and I have too many shortcuts and macros attached that I am too used to using to let go of.  I doubt anyone outside of here would understand, but going from my custom Alt-N to an Alt-E-S-V to paste values would drive me endlessly nuts.  I do that hundreds of times a day.  I know 100 keystrokes vs 300 is nothing, but it feels like something.  In fact, that is probably my chief complaint.  &#8217;07 probably is not much slower to use than before, but it feels like it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I love the poll results. Right now, with around 40 responses, it&#039;s high at the top and bottom ends (primary users vs. those who will resist as long as possible), and low in the middle. I can&#039;t imagine using it as my primary office productivity suite; if you take out the word &quot;productivity&quot; you&#039;d have a better description (I feel it makes me less efficient, not because of the ribboin per se, but because of poor dialog design).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In general with SP1, I don&#039;t expect any changes to the UI, particularly no changes to the dialogs, which I find especially frustrating. I don&#039;t expect much improvement in speed or in charting, other than the minimal improvement to charting of &quot;large&quot; data sets (a few kpoints). I have no special knowledge of the SP1, despite having taken part in its beta: I could not really sense any difference. Then I had to rebuild the laptop that 2007 was installed on, and I did not reinstall the SP1 beta, and it still felt the same.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the poll results. Right now, with around 40 responses, it&#8217;s high at the top and bottom ends (primary users vs. those who will resist as long as possible), and low in the middle. I can&#8217;t imagine using it as my primary office productivity suite; if you take out the word &#8220;productivity&#8221; you&#8217;d have a better description (I feel it makes me less efficient, not because of the ribboin per se, but because of poor dialog design).</p>
<p>In general with SP1, I don&#8217;t expect any changes to the UI, particularly no changes to the dialogs, which I find especially frustrating. I don&#8217;t expect much improvement in speed or in charting, other than the minimal improvement to charting of &#8220;large&#8221; data sets (a few kpoints). I have no special knowledge of the SP1, despite having taken part in its beta: I could not really sense any difference. Then I had to rebuild the laptop that 2007 was installed on, and I did not reinstall the SP1 beta, and it still felt the same.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;power users at large organizations &quot; - Are these the people fascinated with the transparent blue charts...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sam&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;power users at large organizations &#8221; &#8211; Are these the people fascinated with the transparent blue charts&#8230;</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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