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		<title>By: Stephane Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephane Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh and by the way, as an independent vendor selling an Excel file generation component, I have not heard a single customer request about Excel 2007 files yet (although I support a subset of the specs).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and by the way, as an independent vendor selling an Excel file generation component, I have not heard a single customer request about Excel 2007 files yet (although I support a subset of the specs).</p>
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		<title>By: Stephane Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephane Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think using &quot;Office 2007? does not mean much.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think every version of MS Office has moved from being a document-related software to an application-related software, where basically documents are only a pretext, a starting point.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Office 2007, more specifically the Office 2007 platform is not just document-related software, where most think of the usual fat clients, it&#039;s an integrated suite that tries to enable customer cases, such as sharing confidential documents behind a portal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So &quot;Office 2007? is actually more about business scenarios, and that includes server CALs such as sharepoint.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;Office 2009? is the next release in this regard : more integrated scenarios.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As much as there is the current debate on whether OOXML should become an international standard (of course, it should not since it&#039;s just proprietary binary file formats surrounded by angle brackets), it misses the bigger picture. Which is how Microsoft tries to lock-in entire enterprise departments into using the integrated suites.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A ton of undocumented protocols are what makes this integrated suite possible. Microsoft has not made public that they would document these anytime soon.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think using &#8220;Office 2007? does not mean much.</p>
<p>I think every version of MS Office has moved from being a document-related software to an application-related software, where basically documents are only a pretext, a starting point.</p>
<p>Office 2007, more specifically the Office 2007 platform is not just document-related software, where most think of the usual fat clients, it&#8217;s an integrated suite that tries to enable customer cases, such as sharing confidential documents behind a portal.</p>
<p>So &#8220;Office 2007? is actually more about business scenarios, and that includes server CALs such as sharepoint.</p>
<p>&#8220;Office 2009? is the next release in this regard : more integrated scenarios.</p>
<p>As much as there is the current debate on whether OOXML should become an international standard (of course, it should not since it&#8217;s just proprietary binary file formats surrounded by angle brackets), it misses the bigger picture. Which is how Microsoft tries to lock-in entire enterprise departments into using the integrated suites.</p>
<p>A ton of undocumented protocols are what makes this integrated suite possible. Microsoft has not made public that they would document these anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Office 2007 and Excel 2007 « Smurf on Spreadsheets</title>
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		<dc:creator>Office 2007 and Excel 2007 « Smurf on Spreadsheets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Office 2007 and Excel&#160;2007  I did promise myself I would not use this blog to moan about Office 2007. But Jon Peltier brought it up over on DDOEA and I couldn&#039;t resist. And really my only issue is the ribbon, or rather Microsofts deliberate (and unnecessary) decision not to provide a compatibility mode. In fact technically in using 2003, I am using 2007 in &#039;compatibility mode&#039;, according to Jensen Harris. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Office 2007 and Excel&nbsp;2007  I did promise myself I would not use this blog to moan about Office 2007. But Jon Peltier brought it up over on DDOEA and I couldn&#8217;t resist. And really my only issue is the ribbon, or rather Microsofts deliberate (and unnecessary) decision not to provide a compatibility mode. In fact technically in using 2003, I am using 2007 in &#8216;compatibility mode&#8217;, according to Jensen Harris. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: fzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>fzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;An Aero/transparent UI on Excel so that contents in all worksheets bleed through into each other would be a novel aesthetic experience. Don&#039;t know if it could be claimed to improve or enhance productivity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;During the last 15 months at work I went from Excel 97 through Excel 2002 and now Excel 2003 because the laptop I had two Decembers ago finally finished it&#039;s leased lifetime. When I received a new laptop as replacement I got the then most up to date image that included Office XP, and last Spring the image was updated to Office 2003. Most of the canned Excel models we use are now run through Terminal Server, and those are still running Office XP (Excel 2002) with no plans to upgrade even to Office 2003 this year or next.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At home, Excel 2000 is still more than sufficient, even for working on stuff from work. And it runs not too much worse under wine under Linux than it does under Windows XP Home.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for upgrading, I&#039;ll wait until the ISO certification process for OOXML is finished either way. If OOXML becomes an ISO standard, that ought to be close to the SP1 release. If it doesn&#039;t, I&#039;ll wait for the SP after MSFT releases build-in ODF support. I&#039;m certainly going to wait for fewer newsgroup postings about very slow file opening.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An Aero/transparent UI on Excel so that contents in all worksheets bleed through into each other would be a novel aesthetic experience. Don&#8217;t know if it could be claimed to improve or enhance productivity.</p>
<p>During the last 15 months at work I went from Excel 97 through Excel 2002 and now Excel 2003 because the laptop I had two Decembers ago finally finished it&#8217;s leased lifetime. When I received a new laptop as replacement I got the then most up to date image that included Office XP, and last Spring the image was updated to Office 2003. Most of the canned Excel models we use are now run through Terminal Server, and those are still running Office XP (Excel 2002) with no plans to upgrade even to Office 2003 this year or next.</p>
<p>At home, Excel 2000 is still more than sufficient, even for working on stuff from work. And it runs not too much worse under wine under Linux than it does under Windows XP Home.</p>
<p>As for upgrading, I&#8217;ll wait until the ISO certification process for OOXML is finished either way. If OOXML becomes an ISO standard, that ought to be close to the SP1 release. If it doesn&#8217;t, I&#8217;ll wait for the SP after MSFT releases build-in ODF support. I&#8217;m certainly going to wait for fewer newsgroup postings about very slow file opening.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Glancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Glancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We&#039;ll hold off on 2007 for a while at my work.  We&#039;ll probably start using Outlook before the other programs.  My main reason for holding on Excel, Word, etc. is the whole custom toolbar thing - I have quite a few little apps that rely on one master addin which creates the application&#039;s menus and does other stuff.  Thanks to the work of the various experts among you, I am now hopeful that I can  rewrite it for 2007.  Aside from that, though, I also see no compelling reason for us to upgrade at this time, so who knows?  (Because we&#039;re a nonprofit, we can get Office quite cheaply through Microsoft&#039;s donations programs, hence our ability to just buy it for Outlook at the start.)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll hold off on 2007 for a while at my work.  We&#8217;ll probably start using Outlook before the other programs.  My main reason for holding on Excel, Word, etc. is the whole custom toolbar thing &#8211; I have quite a few little apps that rely on one master addin which creates the application&#8217;s menus and does other stuff.  Thanks to the work of the various experts among you, I am now hopeful that I can  rewrite it for 2007.  Aside from that, though, I also see no compelling reason for us to upgrade at this time, so who knows?  (Because we&#8217;re a nonprofit, we can get Office quite cheaply through Microsoft&#8217;s donations programs, hence our ability to just buy it for Outlook at the start.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just put together a proof of concept custom tab for my lone Excel 2007 client. Using a handful of tools, including the MS Custom UI Designer and Ron de Bruin&#039;s examples (not his setup worksheet, though, because I&#039;m not afraid of a little markup), it took about an hour to put a few buttons and a dropdown menu on a custom tab, and link all of these controls to simple VBA procedures. The ribbon has been a pain to learn, and I still don&#039;t get the controls that I want, when I want, but at least customizing it might not be as bad as I&#039;d first imagined.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just put together a proof of concept custom tab for my lone Excel 2007 client. Using a handful of tools, including the MS Custom UI Designer and Ron de Bruin&#8217;s examples (not his setup worksheet, though, because I&#8217;m not afraid of a little markup), it took about an hour to put a few buttons and a dropdown menu on a custom tab, and link all of these controls to simple VBA procedures. The ribbon has been a pain to learn, and I still don&#8217;t get the controls that I want, when I want, but at least customizing it might not be as bad as I&#8217;d first imagined.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Chickering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Chickering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My company is planning to switch to 2007 this year. 2007 only holds one interest for me: improved Pivot Tables. I am not looking forward to the ribbon design and what it is going to do to all my custom toolbars.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My company is planning to switch to 2007 this year. 2007 only holds one interest for me: improved Pivot Tables. I am not looking forward to the ribbon design and what it is going to do to all my custom toolbars.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jon,&lt;br&gt;
I don&#039;t think 2007 will become the forgotten version; even if only because 2007 was the first of its kind.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I work for a large fortune 50 technology firm and we are moving to Office 2007 at the end of Q4 2007 (all 4000+ HQ employees).  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m actually surprised by the Office 2007 book sales.  Based on sales (not scientific) I think Office 2007 will be adopted faster than anyone anticipated. My sense is that by 2008, 30%-40% of Office versions in action will be Office 2007.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Like all authors who gained 60 pounds last year, I don&#039;t relish the idea of updating any material until 2009.  So I&#039;m going to predict that Office 14 will come around Q1 2010; even if it&#039;s only wishful thinking.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,<br />
I don&#8217;t think 2007 will become the forgotten version; even if only because 2007 was the first of its kind.  </p>
<p>I work for a large fortune 50 technology firm and we are moving to Office 2007 at the end of Q4 2007 (all 4000+ HQ employees).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually surprised by the Office 2007 book sales.  Based on sales (not scientific) I think Office 2007 will be adopted faster than anyone anticipated. My sense is that by 2008, 30%-40% of Office versions in action will be Office 2007.</p>
<p>Like all authors who gained 60 pounds last year, I don&#8217;t relish the idea of updating any material until 2009.  So I&#8217;m going to predict that Office 14 will come around Q1 2010; even if it&#8217;s only wishful thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2007/02/14/coming-soon-office-14/#comment-22472</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m using Office 2007 and do not like the new look and feel.  It crashes a great deal more too.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using Office 2007 and do not like the new look and feel.  It crashes a great deal more too.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2007/02/14/coming-soon-office-14/#comment-22469</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jon&lt;br&gt;
I&#039;d guess my client breakdown is&lt;br&gt;
10% 97&lt;br&gt;
40% 2000&lt;br&gt;
10% 2002&lt;br&gt;
40% 2003&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I intend to avoid 2007 for as long as possible, and I really can&#039;t see any of my clients or potential clients upgrading any time soon. In fact I&#039;ve just warned one client not to upgrade as their key pricing model wont work on 2007.&lt;br&gt;
As a developer having 2007 on my dev machine isn&#039;t going to fly as it will introduce too many incompatabilities with existing projects.&lt;br&gt;
So far this year I have had more Open Office projects than 2007, (and more XLM ones!).&lt;br&gt;
Cheers&lt;br&gt;
Simon&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon<br />
I&#8217;d guess my client breakdown is<br />
10% 97<br />
40% 2000<br />
10% 2002<br />
40% 2003</p>
<p>I intend to avoid 2007 for as long as possible, and I really can&#8217;t see any of my clients or potential clients upgrading any time soon. In fact I&#8217;ve just warned one client not to upgrade as their key pricing model wont work on 2007.<br />
As a developer having 2007 on my dev machine isn&#8217;t going to fly as it will introduce too many incompatabilities with existing projects.<br />
So far this year I have had more Open Office projects than 2007, (and more XLM ones!).<br />
Cheers<br />
Simon</p>
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