Comments on: Multiple Office installs

By: Robin Hammond

Robin Hammond — Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:35:00 +0000

For my two cents I have a stand alone XP test box with vpc hosting NT and 2000. I typically put 97 up against NT, 2000 against 2000, etc. By putting it on a test machine, despite the pain involved in the multi-os install and problem with video drivers under vpc, I can always switch around with different combinations without messing up my development environment. Given that the cost of a new box is more the time involved in getting everything involved and working rather than money these days, it's given me something I can fall back on if a customer configuration is not working.

Oh, and there big banks still using 97 and NT, much to my annoyance.

Keep up the good work with the blog.

By: jkpieterse

jkpieterse — Thu, 22 Sep 2005 07:46:00 +0000

Bastien:

I have similar experience with my utilities (on the many different combinations).

And even worse: the many different circumstances Excel can be in, like editing an embedded object in Word or being behind the scenes because an Excel file is open in IE.

By: Bastien Mensink

Bastien Mensink — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:48:00 +0000

I used to have multiple PC's with different Excel versions (97+) to test applications. I've also had several version on the same machine and can't remember experiencing problems. But I don't work much with charts.

Most of the times you know exactly in what situation your customers will use the application but with ASAP Utilities I found out there are many, many different combinations.

Last year I bought MS Virtual Machine which easily allows me to setup multiple test systems. Different Excel versions, service packs and different Windows versions. It also allows me to install software on a machine, test it and then return to the original state of the machine.

ASAP Utilities has an option to save a range as an image and I found out that no matter what Excel version you have only with Windows XP you can use a much larger area (I use it to export large flowcharts), but I had to test it in W2000 to find out.

By: Harald Staff

Harald Staff — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 11:41:00 +0000

Excel 5 was my first digital love, and she changed the course of my life. I will never own a pc without Excel 5.

The collection is fun, great for reference, and in case something has to run on ancient versions then I can make it. Otherwise I do all my codework on Excel 2000 and test it on 2003.

I still make or support dialogsheets from time to time. Those are undocumented since version 97 and there's close to nothing on the web about them. Excel 5 VBA help comes to rescue.

Best wishes Harald

By: jkpieterse

jkpieterse — Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:13:00 +0000

Doco:
Good point, but I do need the 97.

Jon:
Hosed? Never!
Maybe problems caused by Office update?

By: XL-Dennis

XL-Dennis — Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:11:00 +0000

doco,

I would agree with You in general terms but I noticed that Harald (see his post on top) also support version 5.0!!!

Jan-Karl,
I have two computers with wmWare (two legal licenses!) installed.

One stationary (the development computer) and one laptop which is used to present solutions etc towards clients. I only have one guest system available on the
laptop.

Kind regards,
Dennis

By: doco

doco — Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:44:00 +0000

At what point does one just have to bite the bullet and establish a cut off at some earlier version?

I would think 97 is fast approaching obsolescense. I can't think of a single instance of 97 remaining in the organizations I deal with.

By: Jon Peltier

Jon Peltier — Tue, 20 Sep 2005 12:00:00 +0000

I had confirmed Jan Karel’s issue with the chart user gallery when multiple Excel versions are running. No sooner had I done this when two different people told me they use multiple Excel versions and have no problem with the user defined charts. In my case, I’ve probably hosed my Office installations beyond all recognition, and I suspect Jan Karel’s is like mine

By: jkpieterse

jkpieterse — Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:48:00 +0000

Dennis:

Yes, I do have VPC and have used that to avoid trouble. But I work on a laptop with a 60 GB HD, which tends to spill over with many VPC "systems".

It is the best way to do this however.

Any other problems anyone?

By: XL-Dennis

XL-Dennis — Tue, 20 Sep 2005 10:53:00 +0000

Hi JK,

For some years ago I decided to use vmWare (http://www.vmware.com/) and install each Excel-version on separate guest system.

It also give me the flexibility to configure systems the same way as individual clients. In addition I can use different versions of the PIAs when working with VB.NET.

Today I use a Linux distribution (Debian) as the host system and run all Windows systems as guest systems.

It works well and the only drawback is that it require at least 1 GB RAM and large disks.

Today wmWare is quite cheap but I believe You have access to MS Virtual PC that will give You the same enviroment enabling You to check it out.

Kind regards,
Dennis