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		<title>By: Dick Kusleika</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2005/03/07/censorship/#comment-9425</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Kusleika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Your paternalism is actually harmful,&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Paternalism is what I&#039;m trying to avoid.  Parents have a responsibility to talk to their children.  I don&#039;t have or want a responsibility to direct the morality of the readers.  I have &#039;chosen&#039; to shield the passers-by from materials I think are inappropriate.  (Chosen makes it sound more noble than it is - passers-by because I&#039;m not concerned with the regular readers, they&#039;re all top notch citizens.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Despite my lame justifications, you make a very good point.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your paternalism is actually harmful,&#8221;</p>
<p>Paternalism is what I&#8217;m trying to avoid.  Parents have a responsibility to talk to their children.  I don&#8217;t have or want a responsibility to direct the morality of the readers.  I have &#8216;chosen&#8217; to shield the passers-by from materials I think are inappropriate.  (Chosen makes it sound more noble than it is &#8211; passers-by because I&#8217;m not concerned with the regular readers, they&#8217;re all top notch citizens.)</p>
<p>Despite my lame justifications, you make a very good point.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Slaghter</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2005/03/07/censorship/#comment-9413</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Slaghter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;from now on I just tell &#039;em to search google.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At some point you have no value. I&#039;ll just search Google first. In this case, I shouldn&#039;t bother coming here. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your paternalism is actually harmful, because the first encounter readers now have with this information might be from less ethical perspectives. It&#039;s like parents that won&#039;t talk about sex and drugs. Their kids learn from pimps and pushers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Write a statement about why people shouldn&#039;t crack the code and then link to the products/services that support those ethics on their sites. Your readers are asking about it. If you don&#039;t guide them then someone else will and that might not be good.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;from now on I just tell &#8216;em to search google.&#8221;</p>
<p>At some point you have no value. I&#8217;ll just search Google first. In this case, I shouldn&#8217;t bother coming here. </p>
<p>Your paternalism is actually harmful, because the first encounter readers now have with this information might be from less ethical perspectives. It&#8217;s like parents that won&#8217;t talk about sex and drugs. Their kids learn from pimps and pushers.</p>
<p>Write a statement about why people shouldn&#8217;t crack the code and then link to the products/services that support those ethics on their sites. Your readers are asking about it. If you don&#8217;t guide them then someone else will and that might not be good.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Tanenbaum</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2005/03/07/censorship/#comment-9353</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Tanenbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 01:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Since a couple of people asked: Microsoft hasn&#039;t shut us down yet over TurboExcel. But they haven&#039;t forgotten about us, either. We continue to volley letters back and forth where we each say the same thing we said the last time in the hopes that this time it will get through the other guy&#039;s thick head.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In case they are monitoring this discussion: If they offer us $20 million, we will change the name. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And since their argument is that our name causes people to be confused into thinking the product is from Microsoft, the new name, once they crush us, will be TurboExcelIsNotFromMicrosoft.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since a couple of people asked: Microsoft hasn&#8217;t shut us down yet over TurboExcel. But they haven&#8217;t forgotten about us, either. We continue to volley letters back and forth where we each say the same thing we said the last time in the hopes that this time it will get through the other guy&#8217;s thick head.</p>
<p>In case they are monitoring this discussion: If they offer us $20 million, we will change the name. </p>
<p>And since their argument is that our name causes people to be confused into thinking the product is from Microsoft, the new name, once they crush us, will be TurboExcelIsNotFromMicrosoft.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2005/03/07/censorship/#comment-9282</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I didn&#039;t read Jason&#039;s original comment in time to see the link, so for a goof I just googled the starting text of his comment:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;really want to see VBA code w/out paying for commercial password-breaking&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wasn&#039;t surprised to see that Google found the exact comment page from your (Dick&#039;s) site, but I was surprised to see that they also offered up a cached version of the original page that has the url in it! The url is now dead though. In fact, the whole domain seems to be down.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t read Jason&#8217;s original comment in time to see the link, so for a goof I just googled the starting text of his comment:</p>
<p>&#8220;really want to see VBA code w/out paying for commercial password-breaking&#8221;</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t surprised to see that Google found the exact comment page from your (Dick&#8217;s) site, but I was surprised to see that they also offered up a cached version of the original page that has the url in it! The url is now dead though. In fact, the whole domain seems to be down.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Kusleika</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2005/03/07/censorship/#comment-9281</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Kusleika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;And since you made the offer...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, I knew that would come back to bite me in the *ss. :) It&#039;s at the top of the list, Jason, unless one of the smarter authors wants to take a stab it, then I humbly step aside.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And since you made the offer&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, I knew that would come back to bite me in the *ss. <img src='http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s at the top of the list, Jason, unless one of the smarter authors wants to take a stab it, then I humbly step aside.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Morin</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2005/03/07/censorship/#comment-9280</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Morin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Since the inception of this discussion about the URL that I posted, I&#039;ve already received a few e-mails asking for it. Like you Dick, from now on I just tell &#039;em to search google.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And since you made the offer...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would love to see an article about DoEvents. It appears to be a critical component in any VBA code for Excel games or the like. For example, I&#039;ve seen it in many of Andy Pope&#039;s cool applications (www.andypope.info) and Kouichi Tani&#039;s amazing games found on Aaron Blood&#039;s website (www.xl-logic.com/pages/games.html).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While I understand it&#039;s basic application and created a small macro that incorporates it, a formal discussion by the experts about how to implement it properly would be great.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks Dick.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regards,&lt;br&gt;
Jason&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the inception of this discussion about the URL that I posted, I&#8217;ve already received a few e-mails asking for it. Like you Dick, from now on I just tell &#8216;em to search google.</p>
<p>And since you made the offer&#8230;</p>
<p>I would love to see an article about DoEvents. It appears to be a critical component in any VBA code for Excel games or the like. For example, I&#8217;ve seen it in many of Andy Pope&#8217;s cool applications (www.andypope.info) and Kouichi Tani&#8217;s amazing games found on Aaron Blood&#8217;s website (www.xl-logic.com/pages/games.html).</p>
<p>While I understand it&#8217;s basic application and created a small macro that incorporates it, a formal discussion by the experts about how to implement it properly would be great.</p>
<p>Thanks Dick.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Kusleika</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2005/03/07/censorship/#comment-9277</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Kusleika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 04:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve never used the method that I censored, but I did use the demo version of a password cracker once.  The lady I replaced told me her password for a particular file, but it&#039;s only a file that you need once per year.  By the time the next year rolled around, she was nowhere to be found and I&#039;d forgotten it (I should have put it on a sticky note on my monitor).  The demo version only gives the first three letters of the password, but it&#039;s all I needed to remember the whole thing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looking at other people&#039;s work to learn something is very valuable.   So I know what you guys are saying.  I don&#039;t have any problem reverse engineering, so if you want to know how something works, tell me and I&#039;ll post it.  Screw how those other hacks do it, you can learn the right way here (because you know if I post the wrong way, there will be a comment or two).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I want to know what&#039;s going on with the TurboExcel name too.  I&#039;m guessing they want that whole thing to die down and be forgotten.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lastly, if you want know how to crack passwords, then do what I do when I want to know something.  Google it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never used the method that I censored, but I did use the demo version of a password cracker once.  The lady I replaced told me her password for a particular file, but it&#8217;s only a file that you need once per year.  By the time the next year rolled around, she was nowhere to be found and I&#8217;d forgotten it (I should have put it on a sticky note on my monitor).  The demo version only gives the first three letters of the password, but it&#8217;s all I needed to remember the whole thing.</p>
<p>Looking at other people&#8217;s work to learn something is very valuable.   So I know what you guys are saying.  I don&#8217;t have any problem reverse engineering, so if you want to know how something works, tell me and I&#8217;ll post it.  Screw how those other hacks do it, you can learn the right way here (because you know if I post the wrong way, there will be a comment or two).</p>
<p>I want to know what&#8217;s going on with the TurboExcel name too.  I&#8217;m guessing they want that whole thing to die down and be forgotten.</p>
<p>Lastly, if you want know how to crack passwords, then do what I do when I want to know something.  Google it.</p>
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		<title>By: doco</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2005/03/07/censorship/#comment-9257</link>
		<dc:creator>doco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 02:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;TurboExcel: I thought Microsoft had some issues with that name.  How is that going?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TurboExcel: I thought Microsoft had some issues with that name.  How is that going?</p>
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		<title>By: Nomad</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2005/03/07/censorship/#comment-9252</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m learning the ropes of excel and would like to be able to view the code simply for the sake of learning.  If you won&#039;t post his site can you put him in touch with me for the info that was censored?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m learning the ropes of excel and would like to be able to view the code simply for the sake of learning.  If you won&#8217;t post his site can you put him in touch with me for the info that was censored?</p>
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		<title>By: Mpemba</title>
		<link>http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/2005/03/07/censorship/#comment-9251</link>
		<dc:creator>Mpemba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 13:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The &quot;crack&quot; works.&lt;br&gt;
The only times I&#039;ve used it for real are&lt;br&gt;
1) My own spreadsheets when I&#039;ve forgotten the password&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) Company spreadsheets to prove to others (the authors) their security is no as hot as they claim.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3) Microsoft&#039;s atpvbaen.xla to remove the debug.print lines they left in by accident (needn&#039;t have bothered now I know the password!!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BPB to DBx.   Whoever thought of  that anyway?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;crack&#8221; works.<br />
The only times I&#8217;ve used it for real are<br />
1) My own spreadsheets when I&#8217;ve forgotten the password</p>
<p>2) Company spreadsheets to prove to others (the authors) their security is no as hot as they claim.</p>
<p>3) Microsoft&#8217;s atpvbaen.xla to remove the debug.print lines they left in by accident (needn&#8217;t have bothered now I know the password!!)</p>
<p>BPB to DBx.   Whoever thought of  that anyway?</p>
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